Australia's worst alarmists link recent rains to climate change

Yep, climate change

UPDATE: Guess what? The ABC swallows the whole thing, with a fawning, completely uncritical report on AM.

Following hot on the heels of the BoM/CSIRO climate report yesterday, today we have yet more scaremongering and alarmism.

David Karoly, Matthew England and Will Steffen are probably Australia’s three most hysterical climate alarmists. They have all featured regularly in these pages, and Will Steffen is one of the Labor government’s climate advisers.

And as we all know, any weather event, floods, drought, more cyclones, fewer cyclones, excessive heat, excessive cold, you name it, can be attributed to climate change. As has been said so many times, it is an unfalsifiable hypothesis – no event can disprove it – and therefore falls into the realm of pseudoscience. Bummer.

So when confronted with real world events which contradict their previous predictions, instead of admitting that there might be more to learn about the effects of climate on our weather, our three alarmists dig their heels in even further and make yet more extreme claims.

Put all those factors together, and you get this:

THREE of the nation’s leading climate scientists have linked the past two years of record wet weather to climate change in their strongest findings yet on the impact of global warming on the nation’s climate.

Professors Will Steffen, Matthew England and David Karoly, in a paper to be released today by the Climate Commission, find global warming may have contributed to the strength of the La Nina event and the heavy rainfall and flooding.

They also contend that the heavy rains do not contradict the trend towards drier weather for southern and eastern areas of Australia and find that despite two years of above average rains, southeast Australia continues to suffer from a cumulative rainfall deficit.

They reiterate warnings that global warming will produce longer dry spells, punctuated by heavier rainfall events, in southern and southwest Australia.

The release of the paper comes as Climate Commission chairman Tim Flannery faces increasing ridicule over his earlier predictions of water shortages in major capital cities due to drier weather resulting from global warming. (source)

Top three alarmists

And from the report itself, right on cue comes the now hackneyed “consistent with” excuse:

The wetter conditions experienced in southeastern Australia in the last two years are consistent with scientists’ knowledge and understanding of how the climate is changing in the long term. 

Because everything and anything is “consistent with” climate change, right boys? Here’s a challenge for our three heroes: what weather event would not be “consistent with” climate change? Answers on a postcard.

If you were a truly impartial scientist you would say, we don’t actually know how any changes in our climate will affect us, but these kind of events really help our understanding. Not spout yet more of the kind of alarmist nonsense that those three are all too famous for.

But that’s what happens when you are driven by an agenda – to prop up “The Cause” at all costs.

Don’t forget, the Climate Commission was set up by a government that has swallowed the IPCC line and wishes to enact a carbon tax, based on the threat of dangerous global warming… it would be highly inconvenient if dangerous global warming really wasn’t happening…

The full PDF report is here.

Comments

  1. My toilet overflowed. That’s consistent with climate change.

  2. i luv how these guys have a bet each way

    • Ilove how these lazy bludgers (Professors) get paid so much to do nothing except lie through their soon to be false teeth,

  3. Elli May Ulrich via Facebook says:

    Morons!!! Maybe the CEO of this can shed some light…..http://www.australianrain.com.au/technology.html

  4. Elli May Ulrich via Facebook says:
  5. “what weather event would not be “consistent with” climate change?”

    Indeed.. this question really should be asked loudly, and often. One might think this kind of question would be at the forefront of investigative journalism. Unfortunately the MSM isn’t interested in the truth.

  6. Of course, and the rich warmists keep buying waterfront properties or at least don’t sell the ones they bought.

  7. Elli May Ulrich via Facebook says:

    Well if the climate was the case, there will be no probs with insurance then, only now insurance cos are said to be bouncing claims from unnatural events.

  8. Elli May Ulrich via Facebook says:

    They did trials with atlan in 2007. What? did they just pack up and go home, or are they now operating here on contract from the gubment? Cant find any noise about this portable outfit after that.

  9. haha, it rains because of climate change, it doesnt rain because of climate change, its hot because of climate change, its cold because of climate change. when are these idiots going to stop and look at themselves

  10. Still waiting on the report that comes out WELL BEFORE the “extreme weather events” and accurately predicts when it will occur end explains why and how they calculated it, until they can do that, anything they claim is nonsense.

  11. Colin S Tonks via Facebook says:

    Shit-oh-dear!

  12. Someone should ask them about a series of posts on Roger Pielke Sr.’s blog. The track record of models to predict temperature trends on a regional basis was weak and the track record for precipitation forecast said it had no predictive capability at all.
    There is one thing that will not be consistent with the models, a global cooling trend for an extended period of time. We’ve gone from the days when a minimum of 8 years was needed to ID a trend to 17 years. We are not far away from that 17 year trend. So long as there are no major volcanic eruptions during this decade, mother nature will settle the arguement once and for all.

  13. Colin S Tonks via Facebook says:

    I guess the next claim will be something like “the increased need to defecate” is a result of climate change.

  14. Stupid a**holes!

  15. “The fact that all our previous predictions have been wrong is further evidence of the disruptive influence of climate change…”

  16. leg each side of a barbed wire fence,..cant have it both ways. Why is it that the Pro climate change scientist say the world is still warming when clear evidence shows that its still cooling. Now they are trying to scare farmers by saying its going to be harder to grow crops and alike. What a pack of dick heads

  17. Irina Rakov via Facebook says:

    So why are we sitting on our asses and letting those morons make even bigger morons out of us???? Carbon tax anyone???

  18. “I love a sunburnt country, a land of sweeping plains, of rugged mountain ranges, of droughts and flooding rains”.

  19. Now we have had droughts and flooding rains long before the ‘Chicken Littles’ came along with their climate change clap-trap. Wake up Australia!

  20. John Rombi says:

    Gov’t paid Climate scientists, postulate a “model”…this alarms & scares the populace, enough to accept begrudgingly, what they are being told.
    BUT, then Nature proves them WRONG….so guess what, the models are changed to suit the situation…it’s called having a bet both ways, isn’t it??

  21. Isn’t it the rainy season in OZ?

  22. Budget deficit – you guessed it “Global warning/climate change” …

  23. Streetcred says:

    ‘The wetter conditions experienced in southeastern Australia in the last two years are consistent with scientists’ knowledge and understanding of how the climate is changing in the long term. ”

    Qe ??? If they can’t model climate as is acutely apparent from the prediction / projections, how can these geniuses claim to have “knowledge and understanding” of climate dynamics ? Clearly they are CAGW shills in the pay of the ‘socialist government for big tax scams’. For their collective edificatio I’ll suggest to them that they refer to the text books to look up “El-Nino” and “La-Nina” and study the effect of these phenomena on WEATHER.

    • agw nonsense says:

      A Computer Model is Guesswork not evidence ( Garbage In =Garbage Out) and commonly used by persons too lazy to go out and get their hands dirty and god forbid do some real research.

  24. Weather modification is the real deal

  25. Chortle… someone ought to send these three clowns (and their funders in Govt and associated corporatists) a transcript of Sir Paul Nurse’s recent Dimbleby Lecture – as it is clear they have not been told about the CAGW script re-write. ..

    Yes. That Sir Paul Nurse – the current President of the once-esteemed Royal Society and instigator of the “science is settled” meme… it seems has had a complete (read 180 degree) rethink of the issue and now claims that those who:

    “argue that warming is not taking place at all or that it will happen in a catastrophic way… have failed to persuade the majority of climate experts, who have judged the scientific arguments made to support these more extreme views as being too weak to be convincing.”

    Yes, it’s true! Possibly the first high profile climate change alarmist to leave the sinking ship of catastrophic anthogenic global warming (CAGW). Hat tip to Jame’s Delingpole – who covers all the cringe-worthy details of the Sir Paul Nurse mega-flip on his Telegraph blog…

  26. … but, but … Timmy F said …

  27. My mailbox door is stuck shut. I blame climate change.

  28. Toscamaster says:

    As much as each of us has an opinion as to the veracity of Steffen, Karoly and England and many other climate players, nothing short of a Royal Commission will resolve this incredible divisive debate; a Royal Commission in which evidence will be presented and cross-examined and evidence or opinion without real world supporting data will be ruled in-admissable. That rules out quasi data from computer models.
    I nominate Richard Lindzen as a witness. Steffen acknowledges Lindzen as a pre-eminent climate scientist. There could be no objection to Lindzen’s evidence.
    Why will a Royal Commission will not be called before the next Election? Because Labor wants our money – Who cares about the environment? Not us unless a journo has stuck a microphone under our nose. This is political!! We need to deliver a budget surplus stupid!! Otherwise we’re all going to become Centrelink clients comrades and discover what it is really like to be unemployed.
    As for the Liberals. They lack the courage to declare the truth AS THEY KNOW IT – Direct Action is merely a sop to CAGW media. Libs are scared witless that telling the truth will bring on media derision and play havoc with polling popularity.
    Australian voters are screaming for a statesperson who refuses to be pulled by the nose by climate spin doctors. The first to do that will win our respect and votes.

    • The Loaded Dog says:

      “Australian voters are screaming for a statesperson who refuses to be pulled by the nose by climate spin doctors.”

      Joyce, a good example of a guy who tells it like it is with respect to Globie Warmie is constantly vilified by the useless meejya.

  29. Toscamaster says:

    As much as each of us has an opinion as to the veracity of Steffen, Karoly and England and many other climate players, nothing short of a Royal Commission will resolve this incredible divisive debate; a Royal Commission in which evidence will be presented and cross-examined and evidence or opinion without real world supporting data will be ruled in-admissible. That rules out quasi data from computer models.
    I nominate Richard Lindzen as a witness. Steffen acknowledges Lindzen as a pre-eminent climate scientist. There could be no objection to Lindzen’s evidence.
    Why will a Royal Commission not be called before the next Election? Because Labor wants our money – Who cares about the environment? Not us unless a journo has stuck a microphone under our nose. This is political!! We need to deliver a budget surplus stupid!! Otherwise we’re all going to become Centrelink clients comrades and discover what it is really like to be unemployed.
    The Liberals give solace to Labor on this vexed issue. Libs lack the courage to declare the truth AS THEY KNOW IT – Direct Action is merely a sop to CAGW media. Libs are scared witless that telling the truth will bring on media derision and play havoc with polling popularity.
    Australian voters are screaming for a statesperson who refuses to be pulled by the nose by climate spin doctors. The first to do that will win our respect and votes.

  30. Had to laugh, hearing David Karoly on 3aw this morning, spouting his “we are all doomed, man is responsible” crap.
    They did a quick poll, & 80% said they didn’t believe global warming was caused by humans.
    Karoly’s response: People don’t understand the science.
    Yep, folks, you are all too stupid to be taken in by the lies!

  31. Yes it’s the wet season, it’s not called that for nothing. What I would like to know is, what effect has letting the water flow really done to cause more flooding? Seems they have achieved what they wanted! Must be some figures on it somewhere.

  32. Richard N says:

    You got to love the way these guys leave no room for doubt. They always preface their doomsday predictions with phrases like “Little room for doubt”, “overwhelming consensus”, which is just the kind of language that warmist ,tax gouging governments like Gillard’s want to hear.As D day approaches for the beginning of the idiotic carbon tax I expect these warmist scarmongers to make more and more “inconrtavertible” statements, which off course the MSM ,led by the ABC and Fairfax, will lonly be too willing to splash across the front pages.

  33. Swain Kelly via Facebook says:

    I’ve spoken with several elderly family members of my family … They say they’ve seen all this stuff before …

    Then ponder the actions of the local government allowing major changes to the lands natural drainage systems (then wonder why it floods)….

  34. Time for an update and reminder – With a great beat!

  35. These twits are irretrievably lost; it’s time to right them off.

  36. The sea level has risin 1 cm in 100 years. The islands that are going underwater is because the land is sinking. Climate change is all BS, just natural change that goes on all the time.

  37. Confusious says:

    Dear Fellow Deniers!!
    Here is an opportunity to educate yourselves. What is even better, you can be there in spirit….
    Register and ensure that the lecture venue is carbon based life negative!
    You can use any name, invent any institution (Carbon Sinks and Plugs Research Institute sounds good but let’s run your imagination wild), Click Dr or Professor and think hard about the e-mail and internationally sounding phone number.
    So hurry up. Let us book the venue before it’s too late!

    [REPLY: cheeky idea, but I’m not going to encourage it by giving details – sorry! – Ed]

  38. M Johnson says:

    When the fraud is exposed completely, people like this who took money to beat-up hysteria rather than tell the truth should be jailed.

  39. Lyall Gardner says:

    Notice how Tim Flannery will not explain how he got it so wrong predicting almost drought catastrophe in 2007 for the period about now. If he can’t predict accurately for 5 years in advance how are we expected to believe all the doom he is predictibg in 50 years time? The guy is a wanker and the Labor Government takes notice of him and pays him $180K for 3 days a weeks work! What a great double they are!

  40. If you look at the Ice core data it shows that this is the time for warming. Every 100,000 years we go through a super warm period that last around 10,000years before it starts to cool. http://www.daviesand.com/Choices/Precautionary_Planning/New_Data/ Climate scientist will tell you all type of bullshit. Like too much Co2 causes Temperature rises. http://fgservices1947.wordpress.com/2008/06/29/co2-is-not-a-greenhouse-gas/

  41. BrownOut says:

    Hang on …!

    If Climate Change caused the rains to dry up and create a permanent drought, as per their previous claims of a few years ago, then this new claim must mean that the climate has changed back to it’s original state of steady and reliable soaking rain.

    This is very good news, nasty climate change cancelled !
    Thank-you David, Will & Matthew

  42. agw nonsense says:

    I used to watch the 3 Stooges when I was a kid. It is so wonderful to see them performing AGAIN in front of a whole new generation.Their mindless stupidity just cracks me up all over again.Well done Moe,Larry and Curly and hopefully there is a Shemp(Flannery) .Cheers every one

  43. just have to say one thing…interglacials are warmer. that means there IS an iceage on its way…and no amount of co2 from human emissions will stop that…

    • if an ice age hits they WILL blame that on global warming. i think an anti greenie war is the only solution.

  44. Jesus here we go again ??

  45. A wise man said: “It is hard for a man to understand something, if his salary depends on him not understanding it!”
    These men would no doubt like to keep their jobs….

  46. Tom Atkinson says:

    As we all know, it came to be called “climate change” because the warming wasn’t happening.

    Well, I sense we may soon begin to see another name; something along the lines of “extreme weather events”.

  47. Aert Driessen says:

    Why are these three idiots still trying to prove that ‘climate change is real’. I thought everybody already knew that. Is this a deliberate diversion from the real argument, namely, does CO2 drive climate?

  48. My car has a slow puncture. I blame climate change and Tony Abbott, the double-whammy.

  49. I wonder why, somewhere along the line, Global Warming morphed into Climate Change.

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