Roger Pielke Jr on ABC's The Drum

Climate sense

Roger Pielke Jr writes at The Drum on why the ETS as a means to reduce emissions will achieve nothing (this is one of the few “token sceptic” articles, fairly balanced against about a thousand alarmist ones):

Policy makers truly want to reduce emissions, but they have no idea how they are going to achieve those reductions in practice.

Emissions reductions targets are offered up with little understanding of the implications for energy supply or the economy. Complex legislation is proposed that obscures the simple math of decarbonisation.

When push comes to shove no politician wants to impose economic discomfort on his or her constituents, so they look desperately for magical solutions. Emissions trading has provided that illusion up to now.

Australia, the United States and Japan, in particular are at a crossroads in climate policy. The decisions that they make at this juncture will shape climate policy around the world, leading up to the summit in Mexico at the end of the year and beyond.

Will they continue in pursuit of magical solutions? Or will they start fresh, with an approach grounded in the realities of the simple math of decarbonisation?

The success or failure of emissions reductions efforts depends on their answers.

Read it here.

What do you think of this comment, however?

Bob :

11 Mar 2010 12:08:31pm

Nothing will be done to combat Climate Change until the people are prepared to take up arms and compel their governments to act.

Or how about this one:


11 Mar 2010 12:36:44pm

And to take serious steps to silence and re-educate the charlatans useful idiots [sic] who spew their denialist venom against the unyielding wall of indisputable scientific consensus.

So when democracy doesn’t give them what they want, they “take up arms”. Some ABC readers really are sore losers.


  1. To Arms Comrade Bob!
    Fear not. Comrade’s Hamilton, Holmes, Hobbs and Williams will fight behind the scenes.
    “One man with a gun can control 100 without one.”
    Vladimir Lenin

  2. “What do you think of this comment, however?”

    It’s quite scary – that there are people like that running loose out there. Probably sitting at the next desk even. When you read comments like this, it’s not hard to see how people like Hitler got their start. Frightening to think that they vote and breed.

  3. I’m sorry but what climate change are we trying to combat by controlling CO2? Arctic Ice cap melting, no it has dramatically recovered since 2007 without any intervention. The ocean levels are rising, no that’s been proven incorrect. Antarctic ice melt, no recent studies show that Antarctic ice is growing and it has gotten colder in the Antarctic. Hotter temperatures, no world temperatures have not increased for ten years. More hurricanes, no the world is at historic lows for hurricanes. Mosquito born diseases, no they are spreadng because of stopping the use of DDT. Droughts in Austraila, no they are having floods now. Ocean acidification, oops the ocean is alkaline not acidic and it has been proven that ocean acidificaiton is a scientific impossibliity. Runaway global warming, well it’s not happening and it has never happened in the history of the planet when CO2 levels were much higher than now including times when CO2 levels were much higher than now during ice ages. Reduce pollution, no CO2 is not a pollutant but rather a trace gase that is essential to all life. If CO2 levels dropped below 150 all life on earth would cease to exist. It is a green house gas, sounds scary but if you really want to worry about green house gases then worry about water vapor. Water Vapor dwarfs CO2. But the computer models say so. GIGO, garbage in-garbage out. The models have failed. So what problem is it that Climate Changers want to fix?

  4. Hey Robert, perhaps they are chasing a political “climate change”


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