Madness: BHP boss "wants price on carbon"

Turkeys voting for Christmas, perhaps? Terry McCrann eviscerates Marius Kloppers for this nonsense:

In his nauseating obsequiousness, figuratively flagellating himself and his company for their carbon sins, Kloppers ‘confessed’ how Australia had one of the highest emissions of carbon dioxide per capita in the world.

Again, his entire focus was on domestic emissions – principally and most obviously from our almost total reliance on coal-fired electricity.

These had to be cut – to stress again, unilaterally and Rudd-like, irrespective of whether or not the rest of the world followed or when.

Accompanied by this throwaway line: that a major consideration was that our “export-based economy is intrinsically carbon intensive”.

Doh. Young Mr Kloppers clearly doesn’t understand the fatal contradiction. Once you accept that producing carbon dioxide is a secular – indeed the greatest secular – sin, the sinning doesn’t stop at the border.

We accept by whatever process a mandatory reduction in our production of domestic carbon dioxide, exactly the same demand will be applied to carbon dioxide being shipped out embedded in resources.

Now none of this is actually about ‘climate change’ – whether the so-called science or the religion. It is about self-interest and the most basic common sense.

Our economy and our present and future prosperity – even our more basic viability as a society – is based totally on producing carbon dioxide. Both in generating almost all our electricity and earning the majority of our export income.

The so-called science demands we cut our output by 80 per cent. So if Kloppers “accepts” the science, he accepts that sort of reduction over the next couple of decades.

He accepts the long-term suicide of BHPB – a strange position for a a CEO paid a multi-million dollar salary.

To what purpose? This is where the common sense kicks in. We can cut our emissions by 100 per cent; we can stop all our exports of coal and iron ore, completely, and we will make not the slightest difference to the climate. Taking the ‘science’ not the religion as gospel.

Yes, let us have a price on carbon. Zero. That’s the certainty that Australia – and BHPB – really need.

Read it here.

UPDATE: Who does the ABC get to comment on this story on News Radio this morning? A sceptic perhaps, to put the other side of the climate change issue? A mining expert perhaps, who would expose the hypocrisy? No – Chrisine Milne, Greens Senator – who was uncritically asked candy-floss questions which allowed her to spout the usual Green climate nonsense, and support Kloppers’ position 100%, as you would expect. There’s quality journalism for you.


  1. Maybe he should go and read “the bishop” to get an understanding of where the “science” is at.

  2. The Loaded Dog says:

    “Now none of this is actually about ‘climate change’ – whether the so-called science or the religion. It is about self-interest and the most basic common sense.”

    Self interest? Yes, and speaking of self interest what is the “real” reason Kloppers is so interested in trading carbon? I doubt very much somehow that it’s his green religious conviction, in spite of Bob Brown and the greens getting nice and woody over Kloppers self righteous rantings. The conflict of interest bells are ringing loudly.

    “and the most basic common sense.”

    Common sense? Yeah right. Get this. Brown the idiot, is actually serious when he drools the following. (link below off AM this morning)

    “And Mr Kloppers’ very timely statement yesterday which is based on pure commonsense will give strength to this committee as it deliberates on the best way forward to a carbon price for Australia to turn back the threat of climate change”

    Pure common sense? You could write a sitcom about this. The element of common sense is getting scarcer by the minute in this age of non reason I’m afraid, almost to the point of being completely non existent.

  3. I’d like Bonkers Kloppers to declare any/all interest he and or his family have in renewable investments.
    He should also declare BHPB’s long term plans for uranium mining, seen as BHPB owns the biggest high grade Uranium mine in the world.

    I don’t have the skills to “investigate” individuals investments. Maybe a smart journalist could make a name for him/herself.

  4. The Loaded Dog says:

    “I’d like Bonkers Kloppers to declare any/all interest he and or his family have in renewable investments.”

    Absolutely Baa Humbug. The stench of self interest is almost overpowering.

  5. Loaded Dog, haven’t you heard; Common Sense has died long time ago.

    London Times Obituary

    An Obituary printed in the London Times..

    ‘Today we mourn the passing of a beloved old
    friend, Common Sense, who has been with us for many
    years. No one knows for sure how old he was, since his
    birth records were long ago lost in bureaucratic red
    He will be remembered as having cultivated such
    valuable lessons as: Knowing when to come in out
    the rain; why the early bird gets the worm; Life isn’t
    always fair; and maybe it was my fault.
    Common Sense lived by simple, sound financial
    policies (don’t spend more than you can earn) and
    reliable strategies (adults, not children, are in
    His health began to deteriorate rapidly when
    well-intentioned but overbearing regulations were set
    in place. Reports of a 6-year-old boy charged with
    sexual harassment for kissing a classmate; teens
    suspended from school for using mouthwash after
    lunch; and a teacher fired for reprimanding an unruly
    student,only worsened his
    Common Sense lost ground when parents attacked
    teachers for doing the job that they themselves had
    failed to do in disciplining their unruly children.
    It declined even further when schools were required
    to get parental consent to administer sun lotion or
    an Aspirin to a student; but could not inform
    when a student became pregnant and wanted to have an
    Common Sense lost the will to live as the churches
    became businesses; and criminals received better
    treatment than their victims.
    Common Sense took a beating when you couldn’t defend
    yourself from a burglar in your own home and the
    burglar could sue you for assault.
    Common Sense finally gave up the will to live,
    after a woman failed to realize that a steaming cup
    of coffee was hot. She spilled a little in her lap,
    and was promptly awarded a huge settlement.
    Common Sense was preceded in death, by his parents,
    Truth and Trust
    his wife, Discretion
    his daughter, Responsibility
    his son, Reason.
    He is survived by his 4 step brothers;
    I Know My Rights
    I Want It Now
    Someone Else Is To Blame
    I’m A Victim
    Not many attended his funeral because so few
    realised he was gone.

  6. The Loaded Dog says:

    The below sagely uttering from none other than Saint Pious of BHP needs to be trumpeted from every rooftop.

    “And in the end, Mr Kloppers argues it is household consumers who will have to pay the bill.”

    “Carbon emissions will need to have a cost impact in order to change consumer behaviour, in order to favour low carbon alternatives,” he said.

    The vast majority of the intellectually slothful voting public have no idea that this pointless “saving of the planet” by holy carbon tax will actually cost THEM money.

    The ABC (where else) headline preaches to us that – BHP climate call “makes sense”

    Makes sense? What planet are these fools on?

  7. Does everyone realise common sense is the worst enemy of the New World Order? Well destroying common sense is clearing one of the obstacles towards global genocide and slavery.

  8. The Loaded Dog says:


    Ohhhh….so THAT explains it.

    Oh dear, the poor soul.

    I knew there had to be a logical explanation for this LUNACY.

    RIP Common Sense. You served humanity well and will be sadly missed by many.

    sniff sniff…I’m going off to have a little cry now….

  9. This is perhaps one of the grubbiest deals ever. Read the rest of what Not-so-Bonkers Kloppers had to say (reported in The Australian this morning):
    “Mr Kloppers’s other main argument was for trade exposed industries to have their emissions costs rebated until a global emissions reduction system was in place because..”

    Get it? For “trade-exposed-industry” .. read BHPB.

    This is the nakedest of shameless grubby deals. Translation: Since Gillard caved in and gave Not-so-Bonkers Kloppers everything he wanted on the “Super Profits Tax” – here comes the payoff. Not-so-Bonkers Kloppers will tout a carbon tax for Joolia – but one that exempts BHPB from paying it.

    Talk about a “win-win”. Joolia gets her “great big new tax on everything – except BHPB” and Not-so-Bonkers Kloppers laughs all the way to the bank.

    Not-so-Bonkers Kloppers and the BHPB board must be rolling around on the floor tonight laughing in disbelief at just how STUPID this collection of imbeciles in Canberra that calls itself a “government” – really is. BHPB know that there will never be “a global emissions reduction system in place”.

  10. I suspect Kloppers is sitting on a pile of offset certificates that he got cheap when they fell off the back of a truck, or were passed across the table in exchange for playing nice on the mining tax.
    I cannot imagine how even the board, let alone the shareholders of BHPB, could approve of Klopper’s poorly explained assertions.

  11. The Loaded Dog says:

    Good pick up Labor Pains. You may have located the source of that – “stench of self interest”

  12. Marius, ons as mede ex Suid Afrikaners (en oud Tuks studente) wil hiermee ons teleurstelling te kenne gee tov jou onlangse toespraak waar jy in die publiek ten gunste is van ‘n C02 belasting op Australiaanse burgers. Die aardverwarming bangmaak bohaai is seker die grootste bedrogspul in die geskiedenis. Ons kan nie glo dat ‘n person van jou statuur (en ‘n BSc in chemiese ingenieurswese) net onvoorwaardelik glo wat korrupte wetenskaplikes, politikuste en die hoofstroom media opdis as “feite”, sonder om self die sogenaamde
    “settled science” te critique nie. Daar is tot datum geen wetenskaplike bewyse dat mensgemaakte C02 enige iets met aardverwarming te doen het nie of katastrofiese verwarming in die toekoms gaan meebring nie. Jy behoort beter as die meeste ander “gewone” mense te weet dat C02 plant kos is (kleurloos, smaakloos, reukloos en 72% O2 by massa is). Hoekom nie dan eerder ‘n suurstof belasting instel nie? Ons kan nie anders as om met die ander oopkop Ozzies saam te stem day jy ‘n verskuilde agenda het nie.
    English version of the abovementioned disappointment which I have directed to Marius Kloppers in Afrikaans.
    Marius, we as fellow ex South Africans (and old Uni of Pretoria students) would like to express our disappointment with regards to your recent comments regarding the “go ahead” for a Carbon tax on Australian citizens. The global warming alarmists scam is most probably the biggest fraud in history. We cannot believe that a person of your standing is society (and with a BSc in chemical engineering) are so gullible in believing what corrupt scientists, politicians and the MSM are dishing up without critiquing the so called settled science.
    No scientific evidence to date has been presented to prove that C02 generated by humans has or will cause catastrophic global warming. You should know better than the ordiary person that C02 is plant food (colorless, tasteless, odorless en 72% O2 by mass). Why not promote an oxygen tax? We therefore have to agree with all the open minded Ozzies that you have an hidden agenda.

  13. Laurie Williams says:

    Good comments, all. Well done Staal.
    Just realised another reason for this guy’s statements – he would love to be a member of Gillard’s new Climate Committee. Chairman, maybe?

  14. Thank you, Laurie. I am planning to forward our comments to him directly.


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