BHP confused on carbon price


BHP is tying itself in knots. Back in September 2010, it’s chief executive, Marius Kloppers, signed BHP’s own death warrant in Australia by backing a carbon price. Now, however, when a carbon tax is just around the corner, surprise surprise, they’re having second thoughts. Relying on the usual weasel words, its chairman thinks that Australia should take action on climate, as long as it doesn’t include BHP. In other words, I’m alright Jack, the rest of the country can go down the pan. How thoughtful.

But at least he makes the obvious point (obvious to everyone except the Gillard government, that is), that the rest of the world won’t follow Australia’s suicidal example:

BHP Billiton chairman Jacques Nasser has turned up the pressure on Julia Gillard to abandon plans for a carbon tax, calling for a “go-slow” approach to tackling climate change and warning that the rest of the world is unlikely to follow Australia’s lead.

Speaking in Melbourne yesterday, the chairman of Australia’s biggest company and the world’s biggest miner added to recent calls by his chief executive, Marius Kloppers, for a sector-specific approach to dealing with carbon pollution [harmless trace gas carbon dioxide – Ed] that did not hurt businesses that had global competitors.

Mr Nasser yesterday told a Melbourne Mining Club lunch that BHP Billiton still supported Australia moving early on climate change, but questioned the government’s plans and stressed the nation needed to remain competitive with other countries.

“In terms of a carbon tax, most countries around the world have decided to go in some other direction,” the BHP chairman said.

“Particularly in the larger economies, there’s been a trend towards regulation, rather than changing behaviour through taxation or policy changes.

“We’ve got to be careful we don’t get into the trap of really believing our behaviour is going to influence other countries; I don’t think that will be the case.” (source)

Will the government listen? Of course not. Their eyes and ears have been closed for years.

And a bonus item for you: the Greens, in the form of Bob Brown, have shown themselves once again to be utterly unfit to take part in a modern democratic government, by describing skilled migrants, skilled migrants, to Australia as “queue jumpers“. What does that make the illegal boat arrivals, Bob? Clearly rather than migrants who will add to Australia’s economy and prosperity, Brown and his idiot colleagues would rather have a bunch of unskilled Afghans arriving on a rickety fishing boat, who think they don’t have to go through the proper migration process like everyone else, and who will drain our economy by spongeing off taxpayer-funded benefits for the rest of their lives… but nothing the Greens say, no matter how ridiculous, surprises me anymore. What is surprising is that anyone takes them seriously.


  1. Of course the government won’t listen; especially not while they think Australia has “fallen behind”, rather than taking the lead.

  2. The Loaded Dog says:

    Now, however, when a carbon tax is just around the corner, surprise surprise, they’re having second thoughts.

    Yep, they’ve started listening to their shareholders in the REAL world I’d say.

    What does that make the illegal boat arrivals, Bob?

    Basket weavers. When you’re a green freak you can never have enough basket weavers in the community…

  3. What is it with the greens and these “do gooder” decisions?
    Why should we be made to feel guilty that we live in a country where hard work by ourselves and earlier generations have allowed us a good standard of living?
    PC thugs and do-gooders are turning this country very soft indeed.

  4. Confusious says:

    This may help you to understand Jooliah’s mobs background and that of her comrades!
    Quotes below are from 1991! Aliens do exist and they govern us!

    Quotes from Club of Rome, UN IPCC et al

    Club of Rome’s world government, climate-change and depopulation agenda exposed

    “The data doesn’t matter. We’re not basing our recommendations on the data. We’re basing them on the climate models.”

    •Prof. Chris Folland, Hadley Centre for Climate Prediction and Research
    “The models are convenient fictions that provide something very useful.”

    •Dr David Frame, Climate modeler, Oxford University
    “It doesn’t matter what is true, it only matters what people believe is true.”

    •Paul Watson, Co-founder of Greenpeace
    “Unless we announce disasters no one will listen.”

    •Sir John Houghton, First chairman of IPCC
    “No matter if the science of global warming is all phony… climate change provides the greatest opportunity to bring about justice and equality in the world.”

    •Christine Stewart, former Canadian Minister of the Environment
    Now on to the Club of Rome.

    “The common enemy of humanity is man. In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. All these dangers are caused by human intervention, and it is only through changed attitudes and behavior that they can be overcome. The real enemy then, is humanity itself.”

    •Alexander King Co-Founder of the Club of Rome, (premier environmental think-tank and consultants to the United Nations) from his 1991 book The First Global Revolution
    “We need to get some broad based support, to capture the public’s imagination… So we have to offer up scary scenarios, make simplified, dramatic statements and make little mention of any doubts… Each of us has to decide what the right balance is between being effective and being honest.”

    •Prof. Stephen Schneider, Stanford Professor of Biology and Global Change. Professor Schneider was among the earliest and most vocal proponents of man-made global warming and a lead author of many IPCC reports. He is a member of the Club of Rome.
    “We’ve got to ride this global warming issue. Even if the theory of global warming is wrong, we will be doing the right thing in terms of economic and environmental policy.”

    •Timothy Wirth, President of the UN Foundation and member of the Club of Rome.
    “Isn’t the only hope for the planet that the industrialized civilizations collapse? Isn’t it our responsibility to bring that about?”

    “[The Earth Summit will play an important role in] reforming and strengthening the United Nations as the centerpiece of the emerging system of democratic global governance.”

    “The concept of national sovereignty has been an immutable, indeed sacred, principle of international relations. It is a principle which will yield only slowly and reluctantly to the new imperatives of global environmental cooperation. It is simply not feasible for sovereignty to be exercised unilaterally by individual nation states, however powerful. The global community must be assured of environmental security.”

    •Maurice Strong, Executive Director of the United Nations Environment Programme (UNEP), Al Gore’s mentor and executive member of the Club of Rome.
    “I believe it is appropriate to have an ‘over-representation’ of the facts on how dangerous it is, as a predicate for opening up the audience.”

    •Al Gore, member of the Club of Rome and set to become the world’s first carbon billionaire. He is also the largest shareholder of Chicago Climate Exchange (CCX), which looks set to become the world’s central carbon trading body.
    Maurice Strong sits on the board of directors for CCX.

    Back before he became U.S. President Obama served on the board of directors for the Joyce Foundation when it gave CCX nearly $1.1 million in two separate grants that were instrumental in developing and launching the privately-owned Chicago Climate Exchange, which now calls itself “North America’s only cap and trade system for all six greenhouse gases, with global affiliates and projects worldwide.”

    Essentially Obama helped fund the profiteers of the carbon taxation program that he then steered steered through Congress.

    “The threat of environmental crisis will be the ‘international disaster key’ that will unlock the New World Order.”

    Mikhail Gorbachev, Former President of the Soviet Union, member of the Club of Rome

    “We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order.”

    •David Rockefeller, Club of Rome executive member, former Chairman of Chase Manhattan Bank, founder of the Trilateral Commission, executive member of the World Economic Forum and donated the land on which the United Nations stands. Speaking at a U.N. Business Conference, Sept. 14, 1994
    “We are grateful to The Washington Post, The New York Times, Time Magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected their promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now much more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the national auto-determination practiced in past centuries.”

    •David Rockefeller, in an address to a meeting of The Trilateral Commission, in June, 1991.
    “Some even believe we (the Rockefeller family) are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure ‘one world’, if you will. If that’s the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.”

    •David Rockefeller, Memoirs, page 405
    *Other Club of Rome members include Tony Blair, George Soros Henry Kissinger, Bill Clinton, Jimmy Carter, Javier Solana, Kofi Annan, Bill Gates, The Dalai Lama, Hassan bin Talal, Javier Perez de Cuellar, Gro Harlem Bruntland, Robert Muller, Garret Hardin, King Juan Carlos of Spain and his wife Queen Sophia, Queen Beatrix of the Netherlands, Prince Philippe of Belgium and many more people that include wealthy elites, ‘new age spiritualists’, former or current world political figures and former or current U.N. figures. *

    See this link for much more! –

    Additional Information

    Watch Lord Christopher Monckton (Former Adviser to Margaret Thatcher) Speaking in St. Paul on the real purpose of the Copenhagen Treaty –

    Beware the UN’s Copenhagen plot –

    One World Government The Real Aim of Environmentalism -

    The Marxist roots of the global warming scare –

    Al Gore could become world’s first carbon billionaire -

    Obama’s involvement in Chicago Climate Exchange—the rest of the story -

    This site provides damning evidence of the agenda –

    Club of Rome’s Depopulation Agenda

    “The Earth has cancer and the cancer is Man.”

    •Club of Rome, Mankind at the Turning Point, 1974
    “… the resultant ideal sustainable population is hence more than 500 million but less than one billion.”

    •Club of Rome, Goals for Mankind, 1976.
    “A cancer is an uncontrolled multiplication of cells; the population explosion is an uncontrolled multiplication of people…. We must shift our efforts from the treatment of the symptoms to the cutting out of the cancer. The operation will demand many apparently brutal and heartless decisions.”

    •Paul Ehrlich in The Population Bomb. Paul Ehrlich is a member of the Club of Rome.
    “I believe that human overpopulation is the fundamental problem on Earth Today”

    “We humans have become a disease, the Humanpox.”

    •Dave Foreman, Co-founder of Earth First! and member of the Club of Rome.
    “World population needs to be decreased by 50%”

    •Henry Kissinger, , Former National Security Advisor, Former Secretary of State, chairman of Kissinger Associates, member of the Club of Rome.
    “We must speak more clearly about sexuality, contraception, about abortion, about values that control population, because the ecological crisis, in short, is the population crisis. Cut the population by 90% and there aren’t enough people left to do a great deal of ecological damage.”

    •Mikhail Gorbachev, Former President of the Soviet Union, member of the Club of Rome
    “A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal.”

    •Ted Turner, founder of CNN and major UN donor, member of the Club of Rome.
    In order to stabilize world population, we must eliminate 350,000 people per day. It is a horrible thing to say, but it is just as bad not to say it.

    •Jacques Cousteau, French naval officer and explorer. Member of the Club of Rome.
    “If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.”

    •Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, member of the Club of Rome.

  5. froggy uk says:

    Although the following link might be slightly off topic this vid is well worth watching,

    This scientific study basically explains how the powers that be can & apparently have manipulated the weather to suit their climate change propaganda as well as other devious agendas,
    So its not so much “man made” climate change thats the alleged problem but “dangerous & corrupt scientists” climate manipulation which is more of a concern, Perhaps If the greens were to watch this then they just might see their “honest scientific community” in a different light & realize that CO2 is the least of mans worries.

  6. who will drain our economy by spongeing off taxpayer-funded benefits for the rest of their lives…

    F-[snip] you.

    • Well I guess if you have no arguments, the only thing left is offensive language.

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