Open Thread

I’m going to take a few days break from blogging to recharge the batteries.

Discuss any current climate issues here. Play nicely!

NOTE: Please can I ask Facebook users to comment on the blog rather than on the Facebook page? Comments on the FB page will be removed to avoid duplication.



  1. Please comment on the blog site, and not here on the Facebook Fan Page. Comments here will be removed to avoid duplication.

  2. Keep your carbon foot print small as we do not want any unnecessary climate change while you are away…

  3. william martin says:

    Thanks for your efforts in providing an alternate view to the carbon tax scam.
    I look forward to your facebook postings and ‘share’ them as often as possible.
    William (Bill) Martin

  4. Baldrick says:

    Have a good one!

  5. Simon
    Perfect timing. You go on holiday and best news for sceptics is announced.

    This has just come in.

    It is NASA using 11 years of satellite data blowing the AGW hypothesis to smithereens. This is known as An Inconvenient Truth

  6. Baldrick says:

    Monopoly money for climate research:

    Interesting article by Professor Garth Partridge of the ANU regarding the monopoly the government has for climate research funding in Australia through the Department of Climate Change which has distributed more than $100 million to fund climate research.

    Little wonder he says: “So there can be no doubt that climate-research grant recipients know perfectly well that scepticism concerning the climate-change story does very little for their careers. One therefore wonders a bit about the much-vaunted consensus of the global warming establishment regarding climatic doom.’

  7. Warwick says:

    I wonder how many years of global cooling or No warming is required before the government realise a CO2 tax is a waste of time and money

    • Sceptical Sam says:

      The premise of your wonderment is that the CO2 Tax is about global warming, and doing something about it.

      Unfortunately, it’s not about that at all. It’s about Ms Gillard maintaining her grip on power. This is the price the Greens have charged (booked to the Australian people) for their continued support of her megalomania.

      get it?

  8. Warwick says:

    From Wikipedia
    “Totalitarianism (or totalitarian rule) is a political system where the state recognizes no limits to its authority and strives to regulate every aspect of public and private life wherever feasible.[1] Totalitarian regimes stay in political power through an all-encompassing propaganda disseminated through the state-controlled mass media, a single party that is often marked by personality cultism, control over the economy, regulation and restriction of speech, mass surveillance, and widespread use of terror.”
    Seems to be where we are rapidly heading, but not really a place I want to go

  9. Baldrick says:

    Alarmist’s joystick broken:

    In a recent paper (source) published in ‘Climate Research’, Kevin Trenberth – a leading IPCC alarmist, has finally admitted that he and his comrades have serious problems with their computer models that they’ve based some much of their catastrophic predictions.

    “(The computer climate models are currently) unable to do: water/ice/snow predictions, water vapor, wind, clouds, ocean oscillations, atmospheric oscillations, ocean currents, polar ice sheets, positive feedback, negative feedback, climate sensitivity, aerosol impacts, submerged volcano impacts, solar/cosmic impacts, monsoons/hurricanes/typhoons, ocean heat, missing heat, missing CO2, minimum surface temperatures, maximum surface temperatures, regional warming/cooling, and of course, global warming.”

    So there value as a scientific tool is about the same as Super Mario Brothers on X-Box.

  10. Ian Plimer wrote in his book “heaven + earth”:-

    “Carbon dioxide puts the fizz into soft drinks, the holes in bread, the dry ice in a cooler, the bubbles in beer and sparkling wines and the gas in fire extinguishers. It does not form polluting smog or acid rain. Carbon Dioxide is plant food. Without carbon dioxide, there would be no life on Earth”.

    That simple, but very true and very effective statement currently towers above the $25 million government spend on advertising for the CO2 Tax.
    Surely, this fact again highlights the total financial incompetence of this Gillard government!

  11. Baldrick says:

    The worlds 4th biggest miner may favour other countries over Australia due to the carbon dioxide tax.

    Anglo American chief executive Cynthia Carroll says Julia Gillard’s carbon tax could lead the miner to favour new coal investments in Colombia over Australia. “There is no other country imposing this sort of carbon pricing scheme, so it puts Australia in a difficult competitive position when comparing it to countries that haven’t taken this position, like the US, like Mozambique, like Mongolia and like Colombia.”

  12. Baldrick says:

    Global warming alarmists would have you believe that we’re headed for catastrophic climate changes. The Climate Research Unit (CRU) of East Anglia University have come up with a graph which displays global temperature records from 1850 to 2010.

    However, when you look at global temperature trends from 2500 BC to the present, you get to see the whole picture. Current temperatures are quite normal and no excuse for predicting a climate catastrophe, particularly one based on anthropogenic global warming.

  13. Baldrick says:

    The ABC does it again!

    This ( ) report highlights the bias used by the ABC in the carbon (dioxide) tax debate.

    The first part of the story, about a no carbon tax rally, uses words like: continuing opposition, protesters, marched, not listening, personally targeting, singled out, venting their anger, liar, witch, critical, chanted.

    Yet on the same page a report that British prime minister David Cameron had sent a letter to Julia Gillard praising her for her carbon ‘pricing plan’ (tax) uses the words: bold and ambitious, add momentum, delighted to hear, ambitious package, congratulate, bold step, endorsement.

  14. Why did my post not make it on here?

    • Didn’t see one – it certainly wasn’t moderated out. Last comment of yours was back on 16 June. Looks like a glitch. Please can you re-submit? Thanks.

  15. The Gillard/Brown government is in serious trouble.

    A Labor cabinet minister, who’s identity remains unknown, confessed ‘political life had become near intolerable’. The article which appeared in The Australian newspaper ( ) also quoted the prominent member of the government as saying, ‘the carbon tax is destroying the government, yet they could not walk away from it.’ He also said, ‘… that climate change is real, then admitted his grave doubts about the science’ and ‘ (He) confirmed that the whole media bias campaign being waged by the government, principally against News Limited, is a diversion.’

    The latest Essential Media opinion polls released 1 August show on a 2 party preferred basis Libreal/National on 56% with Labor on 44%. Support for the carbon tax remained steady at 39%, while opposition rose to 51% since the last poll on 18 July. Also 50% of respondents support Tony Abbott’s proposal to overturn the carbon tax, while 36% are opposed.

    Ms. Gillard has since gone very quiet on talking about the carbon dioxide tax, primarily due to poor polls. Whatever happened to wearing out her shoe leather? Her days are surely numbered!

  16. David Cameron endorsed the carbon tax in Australia.

    • Baldrick says:

      David Cameron is a committed AGW, much like our own Malcolm Turnbull, so it’s of no surprise he has endorsed Gillard’s carbon dioxide tax. In fact Cameron is not the first British Conservative parliamentarian to endorse taxing carbon dioxide. Greg Barker, the British Minister of State for Energy and Foreign Commonwealth Office Minister for Climate Change, Henry Bellingham have both endorsed the tax.
      ( )
      But the question remains … of what value is the endorsement, by British politicians, of an Australian tax and as Shane Stone, former Federal President of the Australian Liberal Party, wrote ‘you have to wonder about the priorities, political timing and judgement.’ Also, was Cameron aware of Gillard’s no carbon tax statement prior to the last election? The other question, as argued by Stone is ‘what the British PM actually knew about the proposed legislation on 22 July before it was even unveiled to the Australian people on 28 July’.

      In any case, it doesn’t particularly matter what a British PM thinks about an Australian decision to tax carbon dioxide. Even if Gillard got an endorsement from Al Gore, it might make Bob Brown feel warm and fuzzy but would that sway public opinion? Did the New Zealand Prime Minister John Key’s endorsement sway public opinion?

      What matters is what Australian’s think about the tax, and so far it’s a resounding NO. Discuss that!

      • froggy uk says:

        Just to add on your David Cameron comment, His wife is a devout Greenpeace supporter, His in-laws are raking in £ thousands (one figure reported is £3 million) per year in rent for allowing turbines on their many acres of land, & to top it off Nick Cleggs (Lib Dem & deputy P,M) wife has got a highly paid job in a Spanish company that build wind turbines, So no conflict of interest there then!.

    • Looking at the naive way his country is trying to cut emissions, I’m not surprised.


      “Thatcher’s chancellor, Nigel Lawson, has criticised as an “inappropriate intervention” in Australian politics British Conservative Prime Minister David Cameron’s letter of support for Julia Gillard’s carbon tax.

      On his arrival in Australia, Lord Lawson also challenged what he said was the widespread misrepresentation of the reason for Baroness Thatcher’s early support for action on climate change.

      “I am not surprised Cameron says he supports what Gillard is doing in Australia because we have in the UK a totally misconceived climate change plan as well,”

      “I do think this is a controversial matter in Australia that splits the parties and it is wholly inappropriate for a British prime minister to interfere in domestic politics here.”

      Lord Lawson said Baroness Thatcher made her position clear in her memoirs and her later book Statecraft.

      Lord Lawson said that in Statecraft Baroness Thatcher had said she had moved from agnostic on climate change to sceptical. The accounts that are given in the current debate in Australia were seriously misleading. “I think it is unfortunate to use her in that way, particularly given she is not in any position to answer back.””

  17. Have you received your “cleanenergyfuture” brochure yet?
    The web page:
    This is seriously scary, fraudulent stuff!
    How is it possible that these losers can get away with this?

  18. Baldrick says:

    It seems the global warming alarmists might actually be the one’s to blame for the Brisbane floods, with the release of water from the Wivenhoe Dam and not, as Bob Brown said, “There’s very little doubt that the burning of fossil fuels is responsible for the hottest oceans we’ve ever seen off Australia, which in turn the scientists are saying very clearly is responsible for the quite extraordinary and harrowing floods that we’ve seen.”

    The Queensland floods inquiry said the operator of Wivenhoe Dam “breached” the official manual over the releases of water into the river system. It also said, “During periods of very heavy rain and with more forecast by the Bureau of Meteorology, the engineers made relatively low releases based on a “no further rainfall” model instead of the manual’s requirement to be using “the best forecast rainfall”.

    Did the predictions of drought lead the dam’s operators unprepared for floods? See here.

  19. Baldrick says:

    More Labor Lies

    The Honourable Dick Adams, Labor MP for the Tasmanian seat of Lyons sends out more lies and fire-lighting material to his electorate – see here.

    Count the lies:
    1. “Australians have been asking the Federal Government to do something about climate change…” – Opinion polls say otherwise.
    2. “…because of the unstable weather we have been experiencing. – The weather is normal.
    3. “…in the last decade we have had fires, drought, flood and extreme temperatures signalling the world is out of balance.” – There have been no more and no less weather events in the past decade and even the last century outside the normal variants.
    4. “Scientists believe it is because the world today is emitting too many greenhouse gases…” – The consensus for that theory is only amongst government and IPCC funded scientists.
    5. “Putting a price on carbon …” – The government is taxing carbon dioxide emissions – not diamonds.
    6. “Putting a price on carbon will help cut pollution…” – Carbon dioxide is not a pollutant and the theory of global warming has nothing to do with pollution.
    7. “Putting a price on carbon will help cut pollution in the cheapest and most effective way. – The cheapest way is to do nothing. A carbon dioxide tax will not change the earth’s temperature.
    8. “That money will help introduce new clean energy sources, such as solar, gas and wind.” – Current technologies to supply a base load using solar, wind or any other renewable energy source are the stuff of fairytales.
    9. “It will also help us to save money on energy in the long term.” – Coal fired power is the cheapest and most efficient source of energy. A tax will not save people money – it will cost.
    10.“Carbon price is not a tax on households.” – The carbon dioxide tax is an indirect form of taxation levied on everything we produce and power we use to produce.
    11.“It is not even a tax!” – It looks like a tax – it smells like a tax – it provides government revenue. It is a tax!
    12. “Carbon price helps us to offset costs of changes to more efficient energy sources which are more expensive than oil or coal.” – The carbon dioxide tax cannot fund energy sources that don’t exist.
    13. “Other countries are already taking action – so if we are all to benefit – we must take action too.” – Very few countries have implemented a carbon dioxide tax. Without China, USA and India, whatever the rest of the world does is inconsequential.
    14.“…so we will ensure those of you who need the help most will be assisted with any cost of living impacts.” – Your going to take our money and we should feel good you’ll give some back to us.

    • Confusious says:

      It’s not a carbon or even carbon dioxide tax. It is an air we breath tax devised by that fat budha Al Gore and propagated in Australia by his apostles Gillard, Brown, Grommit, Garnaut, Flannery and the army of left wing pseudo scientists and so called public servants.

  20. Confusious says:

    Dear Co-sufferers under Brown Gillard’s regime.

    It seems that the masses are finally stirring! Read below.

    Historic Convoy of No Confidence To Descend On Canberra

    We are about to witness something truly historic.

    In just a few weeks, thousands of trucks, trailers, campers, caravans, busses, and cars from all over Australia will descend upon Canberra to deliver a clear message: the Australian people demand an election now!!!

    Organised through the Just Grounds Community and sponsored by the Road Freighters Association, this is something that not even our left-wing media will be able to ignore!

    In total, eleven convoys from all accross Australia are to converge in Canberra on August 22 – and I hope you might be able to join them!

    As beef farmer, mum of four, and rally organiser Cate Stuart said:

    “it’s not just a single issue that we’re representing; it’s everything. People are just so dissatisfied with so many things… the biggest grievances are related to the carbon tax and live export crisis, but also cover everything from job security and overseas aide funding, to economic instability, policing, and palliative care.
    People are worried about instability. They don’t care whether it’s a Labor government, a Coalition government or even if it’s a Greens government…They’re saying, ‘we don’t believe in the government at the moment because it’s unstable.’

    The always-brilliant Jo Nova explains it far better than I ever could:

    Something beautiful is unfolding. From all over Australia, people whose businesses and jobs are being driven into the ground by spectacular government mismanagement are gathering to drive from the corners of the continent to converge on Canberra to demand an election.

    The productive class may not have easy rent-a-crowds for rallies and chirpy letter campaigns, but they have something that the keen teens do not — they have capital assets — in this case, assets that move. When it’s obvious money and choices are being poured down a bottomless well, people are prepared to go that extra mile, or in this case the extra 4,000.

    It started with Mick Pattel – a livestock transporter from North West Queensland — who suffered a 50 percent drop in business when the Federal Government banned live exports to Indonesia. According to Beef Central he declared that the time has come for a re-election. The owner/driver from Richmond, who also serves as president of the National Road Freighters Association, started planning a protest convoy to drive from northern Australia to the lawns of Parliament House in August.

    “He hopes to generate enough support and media attention via the “vote of no confidence” convoy to convince the Governor General to dissolve the parliament or to convince Julia Gillard to go back to the polls.” …

    Organisers appear to have been astounded by the demand and with so many cars and trucks wanting to join up they are changing plans, adding convoys, and even splitting some convoys to cover different routes. Some people are travelling out to the far reaches so they can join the convoys from the start.
    To join in this convoy is obviously a great committment, and we do not expect everyone to be able to make it (although if you can, click here for details!) But maybe even if you can’t join in, you can help spread the word. You can tell your family, tell your friends, or maybe even help send a message to the media. Click here for a full list of ways you can help pass on the message.

    This is a great opportunity, and we hope you will be able to take part in any way you can! If you want any further information, or have any questions, please visit the Just Grounds website.

    Thank you, as always, for your support.

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